Mustafa Suleyman: The AGI Race Is Fake, Building Safe Superintelligence & the Agentic Economy | #216

Published at : 23 Dec 2025

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Mustafa Suleyman is the CEO of Microsoft AI (https://microsoft.ai/)

Dave Blundin is the founder & GP of Link Ventures

Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross is a computer scientist and founder of Reified

Chapters:
00:00 - The Evolution of AI and Microsoft's Role
09:12 - Economic Benchmarks for AI Agents
18:37 - The Future of AI in Science and Engineering
27:54 - AI Alignment and Containment Strategies
36:42 - Anthropomorphism and AI Personhood
46:10 - The Role of AI in Government and Society


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*Recorded on December 5th, 2025
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